Sometime ago, I posted an example of the kind of ad I’d run (see here) to recruit people who might be the right ones. (Some of you know that I’m part owner of a teensie weensie start up NM company.)
Here’s what happened.
1. I got perhaps 20-25 emails. Given that about a thousand people read this blog on a daily basis, that’s a very small number. (2-2.5%). No doubt some of you figured I’d be deluged. Here’s why that didn’t happen:
1) Most people are happy where they are;
2) The ad stated clearly what the criteria were, including their start up cost and monthly $ marketing requirements and
3) The ad stated the respondent had to believe nutrition was important.
2. To each email respondent, I sent 4 interview questions. No website included. About 12 responded.
3. If they passed the interview questions, I sent them the website where the product is described. They could then decide if they could get behind the product or not.
4. If they replied that they were excited about it, I let them speak with one of the other company owners, to review the product options and to let them know what our company marketing plans were.
5. Six people were super interested. One faded away after several conversations, without signing up. (We let no one sign up just to sign up and pay the $25 sign up fee. Without an initial product order, what’s the point?)
6. Five came in per the ad specs (see here).
Who came in.
– One of the group is a belly-to-belly networker who promptly got two experienced networker pals involved that week. They ordered the same product package she did. This gal is juiced, and calls our den mother everyday to announce the new things she and her little team are doing to bring in customers and more reps.
– Four committed (they laid out money and time) to participate in a special company marketing program, to amass customers in their geographic area. A make-’em-come to you type program.
That’s the story so far. No promises, no problems.
But, you say, you are known, that’s why they came in. To which I say: Look at my numbers: 2%(!) Two percent of a very loyal group of readers. I am proud so few responded. They’re happy where they are. I asked for 1) dissatisfied networkers who 2) would do certain things I specified in the ad here. They’ve done it and more. This is a good example of ‘less is more.’ Drop out rate and do-nothing rate so far: 0.
I’ll keep you posted as the experiment continues.
P.S. I have not personally spoken to any of the new reps yet, because I didn’t want to factor too much into their decision process. I don’t need any skirt-hanger types or anyone who needs daycare. And we don’t do therapy. The den mother told everyone that right up front…You don’t want those kinds either, do you?
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I have to say that Kim is absolutely true to her word here.
I responded to the ad, making it clear that, although I didn’t qualify to the requirements, I would like information anyway.
Well . . . I got passed up! 🙂
How’s that for pre-qualifying prospects!
Walter Reade (from Wisconsin) . . . now with something in common with Roxanne.
I like it, good job!
I hope your drop-out and do-nothing rates stay at, or near, “0%.” If you achieve those lack of numbers in the long run hopefully more people and companies will take note and follow.
From a numbers point of view your response was a little above average – as far as ads go.
As for the ad itself – no promises, no problems. It all seems to be above board. No hype, clean simple and to the point.
Within the confines of your email group does that mean that only 2-2.5% are dissatisfied? Or that 2-2.5% are looking for a ground floor opportunity? Or that only 2-2.5% of those on your mailing list can afford the $300-500 monthly investment? Or that 2-2.5% are not that sure of you “New School” teachings?
I wish you the best Kim!
I’m curious. Your position seems to be that you will only register individuals that really WANT to do the business, are willing to put in time, effort and money and such. I know ALOT of network marketing companies will encourage someone to upgrade to the distributor package, JUST IN CASE they run across someone that may be interested. This is especially true where monthly requirements are low and sign up bonuses are good. The philosophy here, is that they may eventually decide to become a big hitter or may find the person for you that will be your next big hitter.
Now, granted, these individuals will greatly contribute to your drop out rate because most won’t ever do something with the business but, to paraphrase you, what if they do?
I don’t think this is old school and it isn’t really new school but I’m curious as to what your thoughts are on this practice.
Kim
Do you not feel the slightest bit of guilt about spamming your own board? Granted you camouflaged it by turning it into “a teaching” project, but it is spam none-the-less. I must say that I will never again refer anybody to join your forum. You lead people to believe you were a neutral industry trainer and then recruited from within. Very unethical and OLD SCHOOL! If education and leading by example was your goal you could have run your “dissatisfied” ad in a large newspaper and then reported to the blog on your results without mentioning that you are in a new company. That would have been the ethical way to go.
Bottom line…
So if somebody else wanted to post a “good sample” of a “right ones” ad for THEIR NWM company, would you’d welcome that post here? And what’s more, you’d continue to let them post their stats on the results with their ad… once again showing the ad and exposing people to your recruiting over and over. Really, would ya allow that?
Vicki Mihalyov
2007 US Small Business Administration “Home Business Champion of the Year”
Hi Nicole – I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other. I don’t want to collect $25 from people who have no real intention of doing anything…they can sign up when they’re ready. I know once in a blue moon someone falls from the sky, but it’s nothing I’d personally build a business on…
Hi Vicki:
Since this is a public blog to which readers come voluntarily for their own entertainment or education, I don’t think what I put here falls into the “spam” category – defined as unsolicited email from me to say, your email in-box.
You may disagree about my posting an example ad for my tiny start up, and that is your right. Or giving out stats like today’s, which I have never seen anyone ever give out.
It’s all quite transparent. It’s your choice to come or not.
As to sending anyone here, for worry that I will snatch them up for my new company, it’s very likely I’ll say no first. So they’ll be safe where they are right now.
Right now, we’re at six good people with this particular approach, and I will find four more. That’s it for now. I can build a national organization with that.
The higher the barriers to entry, the fewer will really even want to come. And most people are either happy where they are or a nutritional start up is not for them.
I’m pleased that my readers can tell that I am interested in showing them that what I’m preaching can be done live, in today’s skeptical market place.
It’s mine to lose. Thousands of people are watching this experiment, and they know I’ll be reporting on it.
So that’s the story.
Vicki
I loved seeing Kim’s ad. It gave me some great ideas for my own company. Feedback on the results let us know what’s working. She was very open on her association with her start up company. I really do not see anything unethical here. As for spamming, we all come here because we want to. We all learn from each other. We all requested to be on Kim’s emails (permission marketing). So it can hardly be called spam. I have attended several classes of Kim’s where we critiqued and helped each other create good ads for each other’s product.
Instead of a personal attack, slamming the “person” you don’t agree with, and threatening punishment (now that’s really OLD SCHOOL), you could have instead offered your own ad for us to comment on. And what about your signature line?? Could that be considered promoting yourself?
Kim,
Keep us informed please. It is wonderful to see real stats that most people won’t or don’t know how to share.
Kim, personally I’m enjoying watching the experiment and am amazed we get front row seats to watching you build your Empire using the New School Methods that work. First one, then two, then five… and then… It’s like paint-by-number and yet simplicity is elegance.
Everything I’ve applied that I’ve learned from you has worked… just the other night a woman asked my daughter and I: “What do I do to get started?”(Before I would have sent her to the Company Website and her enthusiasm would have cooled off, and she would have been confused by the hype)… but your words rang in our heads: “Don’t send them to the #$# Website”… give them the product.
She wanted the 70 fruits & veggies Smoothie/Capsule to see if they work for her like they did us, handed us cash and it was so simple and honest. No lies, no promises just network marketing done successfully thanks to your patience and persistance. (Something else we learned from you.)
Vicki,
I’ve attended Kim’s classes and calls for years and found her to be very ethical, and tolerant, (she posted your comments, didn’t she?)and willing to put herself out there to show that the New School technology that she invented works. She’s action, not just talk.
Vicky,
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so you can say how you feel about Kim’s ad, what you think of her motives, or how unethical you think she’s being.
Since I read your concerns without faulting you I hope you give my feelings the same respect.
I get a lot from Kim’s material. I place ads based on her training, yes they are similar to the one she posted on her blog. I use tons of her “suggestions” on post cards, business cards, websites, etc. She invites her readers to submit ads for review on her blog. Many have been voted on. Some have brought in new reps and customers. Where else can we get training, experience and feedback before putting money into real ads? What’s the difference in our ads and hers? It’s not spam when people read the blog because they want to. It’s not junk email they didn’t ask for.
She promotes the members of igaggle and NMC and helps us. So what if she posts an ad based on total honesty for a little company she is involved in. She has given us many opportunities to do the same. She shares info with us. Sharing what works in network marketing is something I haven’t seen much. What I see is the same old thing, it’s all in the numbers, Talk to more people, etc. Nothing based on what works with ultra specific ideas.
Vicky, what I’m getting at is simple. If you are afraid of your people joining Kim or any of us maybe this site or blog isn’t a fit for you. We are calling the names of people who are looking for a fresher, gentler approach to network marketing. Kim doesn’t scare me, I don’t worry about her recruiting people into her business. If someone is dissatisfied there are many networkers out there just waiting. The odds of Kim even accepting someone is lower than the odds of the people you refer would be interested in what she has.
Vicky I respect your opinion so please respect mine. I do feel your message was disrespecting all of us on Kim’s sites.