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Really Kim, can I make $10,000/mo in my company?

A reader wrote last night, “Kim, tell me in confidence, can I really make $10,000 in my company?”

I wrote back: “Yes, of course. Someone can make $10,000 a month in probably any NM company.”

(Whaaaa???!!!)

Yes of course someone can. You just need to know what to do, so you can tell someone who asks. Here’s how.

NM companies pay kind of like real estate. The sales agent gets a percent of the selling price of the house.

Lulu sells a house for $100,000. The sales commission is 7%. She gets $7,000 (before splits with the house or other agents). The owner of the home (forgetting other closing costs) gets what’s left – $93,000.

Lulu sells a bigger home for $500,000. Her 7% commission is now $35,000. Lulu likes working on commission, and finds a NM company.

She sees that NM companies work like real estate. Only NM companies sell products or services, not houses. And they sell them to her, a distributor, not to the general public.

With NM though, she sees she gets paid on her efforts AND the efforts of others she brings in. She likes that a lot.

Her NM company, on average, pays her 5-10% on all the money she and her group of other sales reps bring in to the company – just like real estate. (5-10% is the average percent paid to a rep in about any NM company, regardless of the type of pay plan.)

The more money she and her team bring them, more she earns.

So here’s how Lulu can make $10,000 per month. (Assume she earns 10% of all the orders she and her gang bring into the company.

To earn $10,000/mo, Lulu’s group needs to bring in $100,000 worth of orders/mo.

To earn $5,000/mo, the group needs to bring in $50,000/mo.

To earn $1,000/mo, the group needs to bring in $10,000/mo

For $500/mo the group needs to bring in $5,000/mo.

(The overall commission and bonus numbers actually average closer to 7% of the orders you bring to the company, but you get the idea.)

So yes, of course Lulu can earn $10,000 a month! All she has to do is see to it that her organization brings in $100,000 in orders to her company each month and it’s done.

UPDATE: The 7% average NM company distributor payout assumes a person has an organization of reps 5-10 levels or more deep, and they they’re being paid on those levels of activity. It’s less from the downline because the reps are presumably doing less to earn the income that’s 7 or 8 levels deep.

HOWEVER, some companies have strong customer-based pay plans, where a rep can earn 10-30% on repeat customers that they’ve personally sponsored. Several companies I know of pay reps 20-30% on repeat customers like this. Even without reps.

Say you bring in 1,000 repeat customers who spend $37/mo, and you earn $10/on each one. That would also earn you $10,000/mo (1,000 customers @$10/ea to you).

Or if a company pays out 10%, then on a $100/mo customer order (also $10/ea to you) you could also earn $10,000/mo. You’d have to get 1,000 customers paying in $100/mo for their product.

With the traditional recruiter-based model there is more money up front, because the one-time orders are bigger than for a customer. But with the customer income I’ve described, the percents paid out in some companies are much bigger, and customers tend to have much less drop out than reps.

So find out what the company pays you most for, and see if that’s the activity you enjoy most. Most companies are pretty different.

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Kim Klaver

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  • I agree Kim, It is absolutely possible to make that kind of money. However, the networker needs to have a vision, clearly defined goals and a plan of action. They also have to think about the lifetime value of the opportunity they are in. The dollar amount they want to make is going to grow exponentially according to how many retail customers they have and the quality of the business builders they bring. Rome wasn’t built in a day. They are also going to have to accept the fact that there is no free ride and they are going to have to invest a certain amount of time and money on marketing their business by which every means works best for their product or service. Juliette Gray http://www.itvsuccessline.com

  • I’ve always been of the mindset if ANYONE else is making that kind of money in the company, then I am able to do the same.

    And, often the two hidden questions in that question, as you have addressed, are

    What will it take to do that?

    and

    WHEN will it happen?

    It’s easier to start with what it will take because those are things we can control in terms of our own action steps and coaching the team to duplicate those steps.

    And, of course, the WHEN follows.

    I like this example and the HOW examples that you show and am going to develop an outline for my team and company based on the numbers we use.

    Thanks Kim!

    EXPECT Success!

    Jackie Ulmer
    MLM WAHM BLOG

  • That is a great example.

    Mine is easy.

    The average percent on dollars in my company is around 16%. My company can pay more than the industry average due to their low overhead and streamlined business model.

    So here’s how I can make $10,000 per month.

    To earn $10,000/mo, my group needs to bring in approximately $64,000 worth of orders/mo.

    To earn $5,000/mo, the group needs to bring in approximately $32,000/mo.

    To earn $1,000/mo, the group needs to bring in approximately $6,000/mo

    For $500/mo the group needs to bring in approximately $3,000/mo.

    These numbers actually just changed a week ago because for the 4th year in a row, Vitamark has added MORE money to our comp plan making it even easier for us to earn money.

    Yes – it CAN be done in any network marketing company.

    Is it harder to sell $100,000 worth of product ($142,857 using the industry standard of 7%) or $64,000 worth of product to make the same $10,000?

    I choose to sell less and make more.

    Have an awesome day!!

    ~Roxanne~

    New Low Glycemic, Fat Burning Energy Drink – Do you know anyone who drinks energy drinks and wants to save money buying a safer product?

  • Someone actually asked this question: “Question for all of you…I am wondering if anyone can tell me in which MLM companies could you earn at least 100k per year with sponsoring only one person and having a required monthly purchase of no more than $50?”—my response: “This is a joke, right? That doesn’t sound like a very realistic expectation.”—their response back: “Nope, it’s not a joke. I know of a company that makes a claim like this. I think it could be true, but I don’t know for sure really.”

    So I am glad that Kim took the time to address this. It must be marketed by some company out there and I would say this is deceptive.

    My take on this is that you keep sponsoring and selling until you get to where you want to be and you help other people do the same. You have to determine who the people are that are really going to do the work on your team.

  • This quote from Mark Yarnell always makes me chuckle:

    “You could parachute me into any small town in the US with just my underwear and an Amway distributorship, and I’d be making $10,000 after 6 months.”

    I personally believe that if you have the right skills, you can make any business work.

    BUT . . .

    Having promoted two different companies, I can tell you that all situations are not created equal.

    First . . . your product needs to resonate with the types of people you associate most with. For example, you’ll have a harder time trying to promote high-end skin care or nutritionals if most of your friends and neighbors are middle class.

    Second . . . if you have upline leadership that actually teaches you the skills to connects with eager prospects, it makes success SO much easier.

    Walter Reade (from Wisconsin)
    walter.reade@gmail.com

  • Hey Kim!!

    Great post… I started out wanting nothing more then to be a “nylon stocking lady”…
    However, as the years go by, I now make the “gangster money” of course, all this is your terminology…

    In saying all this… in order to make the “gangster money” you really do have to know what it takes… I don’t care who you are or what your rank is… it must come from you… that kind of money takes determination, comment and effort… (i.e. Kim, your classes, books and tapes, advertising, leg work… stability, masterminding, organization, distribution lists, focus, company tools etc)… oh yeah..

    Then you can make $10,000+ a month… but please don’t think you are going to make that kind of money because you look good or because your upline is making that kind of money… I say, “keep your head down, and don’t look up until your upline tells you to look up or until you are satisfied with yourself and your work… well that is my 2 cents… :D)

  • The numbers posted by Kim are absolutely the case in MOST cases from my experience in the industry.
    It’s rather daunting to see it in print like that, but ’tis true nonetheless in most cases.

    Some are worse than that even. And…in some cases such as Roxannes, they are better. (I am familiar with Roxannes company and they do indeed have a generous plan for the nutritional industry)

    We (my partners and I) have decided after having built a decent income ($5K mo) with the ‘traditional model’ that since it seems to take the same amount of time/energy etc. to find the ‘right’ person, be it a 7%-10% commission as Kim points out, or a higher commission as Roxanne points out, that we would prefer a 33% commission and..on a larger ticket item.

    So long as the company has a true VALUE BASED prodcut to the end consumer, we would rather ‘get paid today’ vs. hoping the ones we find get lit up enough to continue a monthly auto ship so that we can be rewarded OVER time.

    It’s a personal choice and if/when you deal with a larger ticket (only for the brave) and a much higher commission it still makes for a much faster way to get to the $10K mo. vs. the ‘traditionl model’.

    So…is $10K/mo EVER easy? NO! (and we are not there yet either to be clear) But…. it can be faster w/ a higher ticket w/ true value and a higher comm. paid out.

    Give and take: Of course in traditional networking w/ monthly orders there is a TRUE residual being created by those that stick with it. It’s a beautiful thing and I for one am very thankful for that model as I enjoy a decent residual for my efforts over the past 3 years with a more ‘tradtional’ company.

    With a higher ticket and no monthly purchases there is no TRUE residual as the income is created by ‘new business’ only. So it becomes a personal choice.

    Am I making an effort to plug my company? Of course. But I’m also pointing out that 10K/mo does not have to take anywhere near the number of people mentioned in Kims article IF you have a higher ticket product/service and higher comms per sale.

    To the point of the subject re: “Can I make $10/MO”.. We created $2K in commission just this past Saturday. Granted, we spent $1,000 in advertising…but we’re just getting started so we’re pleased so far.

    And because I am totally up front, we only saw $1,000 of the $2,000because we had to pass our first one up. We’re still pleased.

    My whole point (in addition to being very upfront about plugging my business…most here would not be interested anyway)…is that the answer to that question will totally vary as it depends on the company, the price of the items/service, the comm’s paid, the viability of the product and in ALL cases, the m.o. of the individual working the biz.

  • I should clarify my comment above.

    When I said “Mine is easy.” I did not mean it’s easy to get to $10,000/mo, I meant it’s easy to come up with the numbers. 🙂

    However, it does take less work than in most companies.

    AND, with Vitamark, if that volume is from mainly customers, you can cut those numbers almost in half.

    I love it!!

    ~Roxanne~

  • Kim again you bring to light important points. You must do due diligence. Another important point to clarify is what is the commissionable value of your sales? If your group makes $100,000 sales it does not normally mean that you earn 10% of that. Most companies I’ve investigated only credit you with approximately half of that as commissionable, i.e., $5,000 income. So in your example, you would need to have $200,000 in group volume. With a $50 monthly purchase, that’s a lot of cable subscribers. 🙂

    That 30% commission is one of a kind.

  • Hi Gang,

    Aren’t we all adults here?

    Please, let’s not take a great generic example from Kim and turn it into a “my dogs bigger than yours”?

    I have seen top leaders praise their company as if it were devinely inspired and be gone to the next great one in a year. No matter the talk, it is usually the money magnet.

    So why don’t we all stop praising our great products and comp plans while we are out there saving the earth and all of it’s inhabitant. Honestly, we should just tell folks we are in it for the money. That is until more comes along.

    Is it any wonder some find our industry repulsive ?

    Just show me the money,
    Tom Doiron
    Atlanta

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