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Latest free sleaze-ball report.

Beware of “free reports” for which you must give out your personal information online: may be hazardous to your wallet and reputation.

Here’s one.

Free report on the “death” of Network Marketing. Unnamed “industry experts” offer you a ‘free report’ about the “death” of Network Marketing. That’s to get your attention. (No link, for obvious reasons.)

Next comes the pitch on how much money you can make spreading this stuff to people you know. So you can help the perpetrators build their data base on the backs of your friends and contacts. Oh, and they’ll give you .25 for each name you turn in.

At least Judas got 30 pieces of silver.

Last comes the get rich quick pitch:

“How you can earn up to $2500.25 by just sharing the report with your friends, your team members, and anyone you know.”

You ready for this?

“Just by telling one person.” Here’s how:

Your Tier-1 Referral: 1 name x $0.25 = $0.25
Your Tier-2 Referral: 10,000 x $0.25 = $2500
——————————————————
Your Cash Bonus: = $2500.25
(Just by telling 1 person
in this example)

Yep. so there you have it. Tell one person, earn $2,500.25. Err, provided that person tells 10,000 more.

Oh and it’s not just tell: it’s get them to sign up, opt in and give their complete contact information to these same people so they can do it to more.

So for those of you who will sell out your friends for a quarter, here’s your chance.

I’d ask for 30 pieces of silver, at least. It’s all you’ll have left when your friends find out what you’ve done.

P.S. If your friends WANT to be sold like this, great. Split the money. Start a run, turn the tables on people perpetrating such slimebag tactics for their own gain and at your expense. There are big backend programs they want to sell you. This is just the first kiss.

P.P.S. The Friends, Lies and Network Marketing download does NOT ask you for any personal information. Download it, NO STRINGS ATTACHED. And obviously, if you know and trust the source of a “free report” you want, that’s a different matter. I give my info to people like that without hesitation

P.P.S. I will not approve any comments by anyone promoting the above sleaze, so if your website link goes to that site, your comment will not appear here. Nothing personal, sorry, but this just makes me sick and I will not knowingly promote it.

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Kim Klaver

18 Comments

  • Kim,

    We’re not always in agreement, but you are absolutely righteous about this junk. Thanks for warning all to sidestep this cesspool.

    Keith

  • But Kim, isn’t this how Internet (Affiliate) Marketers build their lists (and teach others to do the same)? I mean, almost every ‘free report’ out there comes with an opt-in box you have to fill out before you can get their information.

    And using this method . . . is it any different than buying leads (for those that do sort of thing)?

    I definitely agree with your statement “There are big backend programs they want to sell you. This is just the first kiss.” But I guess I’m a bit confused . . .

    If the information in the report is valid and/or of potential benefit to someone else, why not promote it? Or is it because of the hyped income claim, and/or the fact that you can’t get the report without divulging your contact info?

    I have personally met the person who is endorsing it, and while that person doesn’t need to add to their own list (or bank account), I’m pretty sure this report is being promoted for the benefit of the person who wrote it. I believe it’s called a Joint Venture, and what seems to be driving the Internet (Affiliate) Marketing industry these days.

    Nevertheless, it doesn’t matter to me since I have no intentions of buying into whatever else might be coming. That’s what the unsubscribe link is for . . .

    Net Marketing For Newbies ~ A Johnson Enterprise

  • Giving my contact details never bothers me. I have plenty of “spare” e-mail addresses and not many people get the real one.

    Of course they’re selling something else. Or they will be soon when they’ve built the list. But I think it’s actually insulting to readers to suggest that we don’t know that already and that we’re feeble, vulnerable suckers. We didn’t get off the last banana boat, as my grandma would have said.

    I like to get my team to read as much as possible then make up their own minds. If they only read reports after I’d censored them and burned the “bad” books they wouldn’t do much reading.

  • Anita: You write:
    “If the information in the report is valid and/or of potential benefit to someone else, why not promote it?”

    If you read the first few pages of the report’s pitch like I did, you will see how empty it is. It’s one of those a scare tactic titles, like similar “reports” out there now, whose intent is to sell you big back end programs and network your friends, so you can “succeed” in NM, whilst everyone else fails. Of course the promoters make the most of all.

    Meanwhile no one does any network marketing. They’re all engaged pushing “free reports” designed to tell others how to sell more free reports, all giving the originator thouusands of names to whom to pitch their back end programs. Who knows if those are any good?

    There are GOOD joint ventures out there, several of which I can recommend for people who see themselves as teachers and educators. This is not one of them from what I’ve seen.

    Just a lot of slick empty hype to entice people who fall for that. Our industry has a bad enough reputation already without things like this.

    Nothing personal about the promoters. Just wish they’d go piss in someone else’s well, not ours. I refer to the NM online community whose people are already desperate to hear why the house is coming down.

    These people are just trafficking in fear and I think it sucks.

  • Hi Sharon:

    You write: “I have plenty of “spare” e-mail addresses and not many people get the real one.”

    Good tip, thanks. I’d bet some of my readers didn’t think of that.

    🙂

  • I agree with Kim and last year when I decided to start my own network marketing business I got online and did alot of looking around and unfortunately did give my information for a free report only to be disenchanted when they wanted me to do exactly as you mentioned. If I recall they were wanting me to get anyone I signed up for the business to buy their book/report and I would make a commission. This totally turned me off and just did not feel right. Soon after was when I found you and the new school of network marketing and felt relieved that there was honesty out there!

    Heidi
    http://www.helppets.uptownnaturals.com

  • I hope it’s OK to leave a second comment;-)

    I’m a little worried now. When I have time (don’t hold your breath …) I plan to write my own ebook on everything I know about network marketing. One hopes it will be a substantial volume.

    I will offer it free and will ask for e-mail addresses when people download it. I will no doubt use the ruse that they will get updates. I’ll send regular newsletters which will OCCASIONALLY make recommendations. I don’t want to annoy my readers with constant sales pitches and never do that.

    I will get readers to pass the book on to their friends. It will have my affiliate/program links in it. It would be foolish indeed to recommend a program and not give my own link. I’ll play another card here by saying we offer support to our affiliates and free rotator advertising in the higher end affiliate programs.

    Which part of this Great Plan will cause me to lose my reputation and be despised by all of you?

    The “report” (now that is ridiculous the way these things are called reports as if some august body commissioned a study on the topic …) has some truths but it is mostly stating the obvious. Judicious editing would have brought it down to about 15 pages. But like the Earth in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, it’s “mostly harmless”.

    So far I’ve earned 75c which goes into the donuts fund.

  • Thanks for clarifying your point, Kim. When I first read your take on this, I kind of panicked because, in all honesty, I didn’t see any harm in promoting it to people who might want to know about it. But then, I had only read about 1/3 of it when I made my first comment.

    Now that I’ve read the entire 45 pages, I don’t disagree with your assessment at all.

    There’s no new information (other than trying to coin a new phrase: “NetWeb Marketing”), and nothing of great substance that I haven’t either already figured out on my own or through other online resources.

    From what I gather, the intent of the report is the presell the idea of automating the process of finding prospects. Using that title was a definite marketing ploy to get people’s attention, and it obviously has done what it was designed to do.

    And what comes next will certainly carry a price tag. It’s just another instance of “selling the drill to make the hole”, and it’s unfortunate that many uninformed people will buy into it. Have you seen the gushing comments on that blog?

    But this approach,”trafficking in fear” doesn’t really look any different than what is already going on in the Internet (Affiliate) Marketing arena.

    What I did find interesting (although I’m not buying it) is the statement near the end of the report: “(NOTE: Your friends email addresses will NOT be captured by us, but they have to be valid emails for you to qualify for the $197 bonus).” The ‘bonus’ appears be an ‘action step guide’ that is supposed to be free for referring at least 3 people, although the report mentions 4.

    Kim, thanks for sharing your perspective . . . I can now better understand where you’re coming from.

    And Heidi and Sharon, you are both absolutely right because this is exactly the way in which many Internet (Affiliate) Marketers earn their money!

    Net Marketing For Newbies ~ A Johnson Enterprise

  • Hi Anita:

    Affiliate programs are a great way to promote your ideas. And joint-venture programs.

    Trafficking in fear plus the usual “gushing comments” is what I find so old school and tired – yes I know it works for some people still…

    I have not read the entire thing.

    After the first few pages of the ridiculous come-on reported here, I stopped, wondered who would promote in this manner, saw who it was, and decided to comment on the manner of the promotion itself.

    And that’s what I did.

    We don’t need more fear mongering. We’ve had that coming out of Washington each day for 7 years and look where that has gotten us? We are now, as Americans, believed to be more fearful than we were 6 years ago.

    So say the surveys, anyway. (I am not political by the way.)

    Do we really need that strategy anymore?

    Why not promote whatever new strategy they think they’ve got, that they can show is actually working long term?

  • You know, there is a common thread spoken in our industry that its generally not cool to bash one company to promote your own. I’d say its the same in regards to ‘free reports’, training products, and just about everything else. Wouldn’t you agree?

    Tim
    Network Marketing Journey

  • I had not read this report yet and your post prompted me to go look for it.

    I did find it and I still have not read it, just skimmed through it. I’m not sure if we got different “capture pages” or what, but all I was asked for is my first name and email address (I, too, have disposable ones for this purpose, which you can get for free at yahoo or gmail).

    I’m wondering, Kim – how is giving out an eBook that is filled with links to things you sell to make money and giving out an ebook with no links but capturing email addresses for future use much different?

    The emails that they send appear to have a valid opt out link and you must double opt in so they aren’t accused of spam.

    Yes – the information contained in the eBook appears to be (at first skim through) useless and self promoting, however, aren’t we all free to choose what we read? I would hate to fall into censorship telling my friends what they can and can not read.

    I did not choose to sign up for this little “money making” program they have, however, if I did, I would simply be telling people there’s an ebook they may want to read and letting them decide whether they want to put their name and email address in the little boxes. I certainly wouldn’t be selling their information.

    Yes, it appears to be just a pitch for their main program they are going to try to sell but we are all free to say no if we want and we are all free to not give our info.

    The title of the report is The Death of Network Marketing. Therefore, we know BEFORE we put our name and email in that these people are not going to be telling us that network marketing is alive and well and all is hunky dory. HELLO – at that point, if you don’t want to get the info, DON’T GIVE YOUR NAME AND EMAIL.

    I’m assuming, Kim, that someone sent you the ebook because you say that as you read the first few pages, you wondered who wrote it. Had you gone to a “referral link” you would have seen a video from these two people and then clicked another link to see more of their “sales copy” and would not have been wondering who wrote it.

    I don’t think any of us are gullible enough (at least I would hope not) to think we will get rich on 25 cents per person.

    You say “This is just the first kiss”. Isn’t that what you teach? Don’t strip down on the first date? If they had “stripped down” in this ebook, you would have been upset about that.

    I do agree that this is worthless junk, but I will let others make up their own minds.

    I think it would be funny if they had to pay out a ton in affiliate commissions for people recommending the eBook and then they made less on selling their program than they paid out in referrals. 🙂

    ~Roxanne~

  • Kim this happens with any subject. I’ve seen 100’s of free downloads for “Dog Food Secrets.” My feeling is, if this info is saving pets why is it only available in the download. I don’t know what the payoff is for the people who put the download on their sites. These people don’t care about the well being of our pets as much as the money in their pocket. If they did the reports would be made public without us giving contact info.

    Robin

  • Rox: My complaint with this program is the manner in which is it pitched, per my post. As I mentioned to Anita, I have not read through the thing. The manner and content of the 3-5 page pitch is what I commented on.

  • One of the claims:

    After reading this report, you will be ready to easily grow a Massive organization at record pace and profit in 2008 and in the years to come, (All while doing much less work…)

    If someone decides the read the report, please let me know if this claim was accurate.

    Walter Reade (from Wisconsin)

  • Of course if you spend any time online you will have seen people discussing this report. I have already seen controversy brewing over this report. I know I wouldn’t care to read it just based on the title.

  • There is a new thing out there called education marketing.
    Some play fair,some don’t.
    I found gems and found garbage.
    I haven’t read this particular report but I have to confess: I’m a “Free Report” junkie. I have an e-mail address just for that.If I stumble upon an interesting title and they are only asking for first name and email, why not? Thank goodness for the unsubscribe link!
    I found some real treasures among those free reports. It’s a free country!Keep what you like and throw away the rest.

    Carmina

  • It sounds like a scam to me. And the Internet is crawling with them. I happened to chance upon a LOT of those free reports when I first started shifting my direction to marketing and business blogs. Thank goodness I never stuck around long enough to be asked for information. Basically, I think we should be wary of anything that asks for personal information on the web.

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